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Will Hosmer's Walk Rate Limit His Upside?

With all the glory that is Eric Hosmer, I noticed a small kink in his armor. He doesn't walk much. In 2011 he walked only 34 times in 523 PA or 6.0% of the time. This value is about the same percentage of times Jeff Francoeur (5.6%) and Mike Moustakas (6.0%) walk. A player doesn't really want to be lumped into the same plate discipline comparison as Francoeur.

The inability of Hosmer to not take a walk is actually a little worse. Of his 34 walks, 7 were intentional. His true walk rate ((BB-IBB)/PA) is actually 4.6%. I had no idea if this number is too low for a player to have a long, good career in the big leagues. I decided to find players in similar situations and see how they did. Using Hosmer's age 21 stats of 563 PAs and 0.799 OPS, I went back and looked at players with > 400 PAs, an OPS between 0.775 and 0.825 and were 20 to 22-years-old from 1950 to 2011. In all, 70 players met the criteria.

Using Hosmer's true walk rate, his ranking was not good. Of the 70 players, he had the 62nd lowest value. The good news was that many of the players around him have ended up having fairly decent careers. Here are the players with similar true walk rates:

Jackie Brandt - 4.5%
Ruben Sierra - 4.6%
Willie Davis - 4.8%
Carl Crawford - 4.9%
Will Clark - 5.2%
Andre Dawson - 5.3%

A Hall of Famer. A few players with really good careers. Just a few players up in the rankings is this guy named George Brett at 5.7%. He was OK. A low walk rate does not seem to be too much of a hindrance for decent career.

Star-divide

What should his walk rate be going forward? Historically, player's walk rates are the lowest at age 21 and look to improve until they are 26 by a total of 2.5% points as seen by this graph.

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Link to the article on this curve I created at FanGraphs

2012 Oliver projections, which take into account minor league numbers, put his walk rate at 7.9%. That will be a nice jump up from Hosmer's 2011 numbers.

While Hosmer's walk rate was rather low, espeically when compared to similar players, there is no reason to worry about it for now. Young hitters will improve their walk rate over time and Hosmer should not be any different as long has he doesn't take too many batting lessons from Betancourt or Francoeur.

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I, for one, am reticent to believe that he suddenly forgot how to walk upon getting called up.

Over the course of his minor league career, his walk rate was 11.62% with his true walk rate being 10.67%. I’m chalking up his rookie season’s lack of walking to peer pressure from that crazy-eyed sonuvabitch in right.

Yeah, Hosmer completely owned the strike zone in the minors.

During his rookie year, he was overly aggressive at times, but I chalk that up to rookie jitters and trying to prove he belonged. Now that he has a higher comfort level in the big leagues, I expect him to be a much more patient hitter.

I think I’ve heard of an average walk rate drop that is expected when a player goes from the minors to the majors. I think Jeff mentioned it about 13 months ago when we acquired Escobar. I wonder if Hosmer’s rookie walk rate was higher or lower than would be expected from a guy moving to the majors.

This may be true, but I highly doubt that average drop is ~6.0 percentage points.
also, he was around 7% all season until Sep/Oct, according to Fangraphs

and in Sep/Oct, he apparently was killing the ball – his walk rate was 2.7%, but he had .391 wOBA and .368 BABIP.

Maybe they felt pitchers were coming right at him too much, or maybe he just went after the watered-down September pitching. Either way, the 7% for all the other months is more encouraging than the 6% for the entire season.

I am not worried one bit. He walked plenty in the minors.

Once Myers gets to KC, everyone will start walking more. He’ll take the place of Francoeur’s free swinging, and teach the kids how to be patient. Right?

But Myers can't teach leadership
Step One: Get Naked

There is no Step Two.

Step two I believe is crazy eyes.
Not worried at all about Hosmer's walk rate

There’s a reason that Oliver and ZiPS expect Hosmer’s walk rate to be about 8% next season.

plus as Hoz starts mashing at the MLB level his intentional walks[*] will skyrocket

*yes i know intentional walks are not counted in true walk rate.

i should say: "mashing even more at the mlb level"
Also curious about Butler

He had a .390 OBP before the ASB and. 327 after, with a surge in SLG from .415 to. 511. ZiPS projects he will split the difference with a .362 OBP and .462 SLG.

But it’s a good point to watch walk rate in particular. And I’m not worried about Hosmer’s patience right now.

Huh, good find

In the second half, he walked less, struck out more, hit more HR’s and drove in a lot more runs. Hopefully, he’ll find a way to keep the power while bringing his OBP back up, but if that’s not an option, I’ll take a .340 OBP if it comes with 25-30 HR’s.

So you're saying you want Butler to turn into Chili Davis?

Because if you are, I am more than OK with that. It would be another excuse to print up t-shirts, and everyone would get free chili on their hot dogs when he hits a HR.

I sold Chili short

He managed .279/.386/.509 with his 30 bombs as a Royal. He’s actually the A’s hitting coach now.

.386 OBP???

I never would have guessed that.

You must be thinking of a different player

Chili walked a LOT.

the two seasons prior to his one year in KC, His OBP’s were .410 (468 PA’s) and .429 (522 PA’s). That is pure awesomeness.

His 162 game avg walks per season is: 79, and he has almost 1200 free passes in his career.

It's not even that.

I’m sure I was barely paying attention to walks in the 80s and 90s. I would have simply assumed that he was one of those guys who could hit 30 HRs while striking out 100+ times a season without ever bothering to look at him.

The walk rate is somethimg we should monitor

but like everyone else, I am not too worried about it either.

completely OT, but I don't want to start another thread on it.

What is the recently released fiction book on baseball. I am a little tired of reading non-fiction and would like a nice read.

The Art of Fielding?
That is it.

thanks

Check the negative reviews on Amazon so make sure their points aren't sticking points for you.

They succeeded in scaring me off.

If he can't walk on water, his ceiling just got a bit lower.
Those walks don't count.

They're intentional

Hosmer's walk rate was disappointing

The strong (but not silly strong) minor walk rate, his youth, the aging curve for hitters, and his overall good plate approach certainly mitigate concerns about his walk rate and help support the projections of him jumping to near a league average rate as soon as this coming season.

I think it does somewhat lessen the expectation that he will turn into a Votto/Fielder .400 OBP-machine-type guy. He might end up as more of a 350-375 OBP guy, which with good power, can still be pretty freaking good like Paul Konerko.

He Was SAwinging

A a lot of high, unhittable heat for a while. He corrected that in the last half.

I'm curious what the projection systems have his walk rate at for this season

It seems like the minor league plate discipline ought to count for something.

Also, although I guess there could be a problematic kink in armor, the usual term for a weak spot is a “chink” in the armor

Eric Hosmer / Royals

Of all the things to be concerned about next season. The last one I would be worried about is Eric Hosmer’s walk rate.

I noticed in a lot of interviews he mentioned going after the first pitch a lot to avaoid getting behind on some of the better pitchers…..I hope that doesnt turn around to haunt him..

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